Re: =>Albert Hofmann, Inventor of LSD, Embarks on Final Trip <=

pj wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:53:14 -0600, "Reality_Check©" <Reality@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:481c75ce$0$4045$bbae4d71@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>>
>>>> He re****ts in his 1979 autobiography LSD, My Problem Child, that he
>>>> became restless and dizzy when he accidentally ingested the
>>>> compound while making it-and "perceived an uninterrupted stream of
>>>> fantastic pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense,
>>>> kaleidoscopic play of colors" for about two hours.
>>>
>>> I don't think 'ingested' is the proper term. He absorbed it through
>>> his fingertips, if I'm not mistaken.
>>>
>>>> The very next day (April 19, 1943), he swallowed 0.25 milligram of
>>>> the acid to confirm that it had caused his odd symptoms.
>>>
>>> I thought it was more like 400 micrograms. Since no known compound
>>> at the time was so powerfully active in such small doses, he
>>> planned to start out small and gradually raise the dose, only to
>>> find that he had actually taken enough to launch him on a fully
>>> intense trip about as powerful as almost any trip gets. Since 250
>>> micrograms is a relatively moderate dose,
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>> Street level doses are estimated to be 100 mics .
>
> by whom?

The labs that analyze the street level LSD ... and the DeadHeads
who purchase grams of pure crystal LSD and soak them into
10,000 blotter hits ...



>If I have a bunch of sugar cubes with acid on them, I can say
> something like "if I take one, I get a mild stimulation that lasts all
> day, if I take three, I get a moderately strong trip, but can still go
> out and interact with people, but if I take 8, I need to be indoors,
> with someone to look out for me". None of this translates to "a cube
> is x micrograms of LSD". The only way I can get to that is by reading
> thirty year old accounts of people taking known doses and comparing
> the effects.

Bull****. You could ask the person who purchased the gram
of LSD and created the cubes or blotter exactly how many hits
he made ... or you could send your dose off to a lab for analysis.

>
> If I have a bottle of LSD dissolved in liquid, how is a "dose" 100
> mics?

If you have a pig that flys, how is a pickle full of seeds?

> Is a dose a drop? then the dose doesn't just depend on the
> strength of the acid, but on the size of the hole in the bottle....

Is peanut butter a vegetable ?

>
>>> it was my impression that it was closer to 400, which is about
>>> where the law of dimini****ng returns kicks in and any additional
>>> increases in dose only lengthen the trip without making it any more
>>> intense. But I could be wrong.
>>
>> Experiment on yourself and re****t back to us.
>
> ???
>
> Unless he has access to accurately measured doses, or the equipment to
> measure the doses, I'm not sure how you think he can do that.
>
> I'd love to be accurate and say, "I took 500 micrograms of LSD, and
> this is what happened" (something I could do with reasonable
> confidence with nn-DMT, ketamine, MDMA etc.), but the fact is, unless
> you have access to very specialized equipment, the best you can do
> these days is to buy a reasonable quantity at a time, try it, and
> decide on how much to take based on what effect the previous trips
> from the same batch had.

Absurd bull****.