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> HaltingState <HaltingState@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> SDer wrote:
>>> HaltingState <HaltingState@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Post any studies on creatine that you may have come across.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While the role of creatine in preventing muscle (peripheral) fatigue
>>>> for high performance athletes is well understood, its biochemical
>>>> role in prevention of mental (central) fatigue is not. Creatine is
>>>> abundant in muscles and the brain and after phosphorylation used as
>>>> an energy source for adenosine triphosphate synthesis. Using
>>>> double-blind placebo-controlled paradigm, we demonstrated that
>>>> dietary supplement of creatine (8 g/day for 5 days) reduces mental
>>>> fatigue when subjects repeatedly perform a simple mathematical
>>>> calculation. After taking the creatine supplement, task-evoked
>>>> increase of cerebral oxygenated hemoglobin in the brains of subjects
>>>> measured by near infrared spectroscopy was significantly reduced,
>>>> which is compatible with increased oxygen utilization in the brain.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T0H-454TR7
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>>> I have found that creatine can help with mental fatigue, but the
>>> problem I faced was that it was hard on the stomach, no matter what
>>> brand I tried. Its EEC form was also great.
>> EEC form? What is EEC?
>
> Ethyl-Ester-Creatine, which is better in pill form as it tastes like
> battery acid.
>
>> It is much easier to take down if you use green tea to dissolve it. I
>> found that for whatever reason that it dissolves more effectively and
>> gives less stomach irritation. Some drinks do not seem to dissolve it
>> at all.
>
> I hadn't thought of that.
>
>> I am currently looking at arginine, glycine, and methionine
>> supplementation as a means of increasing creatine concentration beyond
>> what would normally be possible via dietary intake of creatine alone.
>>
>> Glycine also seems to have other interesting nootropic effects, but I
>> have no tried it yet personally.
>>
>
> I would be sceptical about arginine and methionine. Arginine can mess up
> your blood pressure, which might be a good or even pleasant thing
> sometimes, depending on your situation. Methionine can make you really
> sick if your methylic cycle is already messed (again depending on your
> individual situation, but a word of caution is never a bad idea).
I doubt I would supplement more than a gram a day of each of those.
Most likely more than 500mg of each twice a day would not have any
additional effect on creatine synthesis.
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