"Justin" <printup711@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Justin wrote:
> thanks for all responses. yeah i might just better take some time off
> but wait.............i'm completely addicted!!!!! mentally and
> physically!
Dependence and addiction are not necessarily the same; it may pay not
to jump the gun on this one just yet.
> might need to force myself though......whats more
> im****tant hearing or feeling good through life? i'm really not sure
> about that.
Actually it probably does not need to be a choice betwixt one and the
other - if you can get the doctor to put you on a painkiller which
contains no paracetamol, salicylates/aspirin and/or Non-Steroidal Anti-
Inflammatory Drugs and can therefore be taken with a reasonable and
individually-titrated course of NSAIDs, aspirin, it would seem very
unlikely to have the problem persist, much less intensify. I say this
as someone rotated on to M and relatives as well as assorted synthetics
years ago and never rotated off and has had no problem at all since I
was taken off of the aspirin/phenacetin/caffeine/dihydrocodeine
painkiller called Synalgos DC No 3 a while before that as I mention
above. I think the amount of opiate molecules floating around my body
is 50 times what it was back at the beginning, and no problems.
It is im****tant for all to note, however, that one painkiller,
pethidine (Dolantin, Demerol) has neurotoxic metabolites and I would
assume that carries risks of ototoxicity &c.
The problem is that hydrocodone must be mixed with paracetamol,
aspirin, NSAIDs and other cutting agents in the US. This appears to be
the case with dihydrocodeine also. There are codeine phosphate tablets
which follow the same narcotic content number scheme (No 1=7,5 mg
codeine per dose unit, No 2=15 mg, No 3=30 mg, No 4=60 mg; and IIRC, No
6=90 mg and I assume that No 5=75 mg and there is a content number No 7
denoting 120 mg per dose unit) as with paracetamol and aspirin; yet
also codeine sulphate comes pure as 15, 30 & 60 mg tablets, 60 mg
dispersible tablets, and what appears to be a Paveral-type linctus of
3mg/ml of the phosphate. The 30s appear to be like those lovely tiny
codeine hydrochloride tablets in Europe which come 100 to a container
the size of a thimble.
So far as the pain and so forth: Maybe a plan that could give you pain-
relief all the way to Morphine or Duragesic land would be: Vicoprofen*
up to the maximum of 16 tablets a day, which yields 180 mg of
hydrocodone in 3200 mg of ibuprofen, along with a muscle relaxant (lots
of people swear by carisoprodol (Soma) as do I, but one must be
extremely careful, and I think orphenadrine citrate (Norflex) works
well too with a larger safety margin. Two other im****tant adjucts
would be cimetidine (Tagamet) for the stomach and other issues, and
hydroxyzine HCl (Atarax) for any itching or other similar side effects
as well as its analgaesic-sparing properties.
The dose ceiling for Vicoprofen is imposed by the ibuprofen content,
although the effects of too much paracetamol are so much worse. In
case like that, I suppose it is possible that he doctor may change the
instructions to more than 16 tablets of Vicoprofen per day and/or
supplement it with another paracetamol-cut drug when the hydrocodone
starts to lose its efficacy, switch over to or add plain oxycodone
tablets, or change the hydrocodone dosing to by-the-clock and then give
something stronger for breakthrough pain.
One could of course take the pure codeine products if that does the job
without causing problems)
* Vicoprofen contains a combination of 7,5 mg of hydrocodone and 200 mg
of ibuprofen; since the ear trouble would be most likely comes from
paracetamol, this may be better. Three new strengths based on 400 mg
ibuprofen tablets (5, 7,5 and 10 mg of hydrocodone) are also on the
market or coming soon, as is Combunox: 5 mg oxycodone HCl + 400 mg
ibuprofen.
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Agent 69
alt.drugs.hydromorphone
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