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Re: muffled hearing and stuff

by "Agent 69" <69-no-spam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 16, 2005 at 03:03 AM

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what the ******?

Ahem! Back to the point...
Dear sir: this seems to have happened to others. I recall maybe reading 
of it a half-dozen times in ADH, ADV, ADHm, ADM, alt.drugs, and 
alt.drugs.anticholinergics over the last nine years or so, even before 
the Limbaugh case. My considered opinion, backed up by scoobie's links 
and a cursory search of the ARCHIVES and news articles, is as follows, 
and more comments are interspersed with the quoted text:

This seems to be a reversible thing having something to do with the 
paracetamol, and has happened to my knowledge with aspirin, 
salicylates, and ibuprofen as well, the latter and several of its 
chemical relatives alone without opioids.  The cases we know of have 
this common thread -- these were not cases where the hearing trouble 
was caused by, for instance, Dicodid (pure hydro), oxycodone plain 
tablets, codeine plain tablets, or Contugesic/DF118/Paracodin, much 
less morphine, hydromorphone, dextromoramide, methadone, or levorphanol.

Even with that, it is true that most opioids, certainly including 
hydrocodone, can increase fluid pressure inside the eye and other 
organs, I would think it would do it in the ear as well.

Why is it not as transient? I will go out on a limb here and venture a 
guess that maybe the "cut" such as paracetamol is doing something with 
membrane permeability and perhaps it is more like swimmers ear than we 
think.  Something like this was the cause for my jump from Synalgos DC 
way back in the day.  Yet I took DHC in the form of Contugesic, 
Paracodin, and SC ampoules like a mother****er without incident all the 
way till I was put on Palf and M years later.

Hydrocodone has been around for 81 years and oxycodone for at least 89, 
and one wonders if a rather serious side effect like this would have 
been unknown. Consider how fast and far the doses of opioids not 
affected by metabolic issues like codeine can be escalated for pain 
control -- the "massive overdose" school of thought on the hydrocodone-
deafness theory seems to ring hollow as well.

"Justin" <printup711@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> of http://groups.google.com
wrote in 
alt.drugs.hard in article 
<1113606120.373750.275450@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:

>>>> hey i use about 120 mg's of hydrocodone a day 

Thank goodness they are at least Norcos...

>>>>and about a week and a
>>>> half ago i was in the shower and it felt like i got water stuck in 
my
>>>> ear.  

I suppose it actually could still be a little water in there...

>>>> i tried and tried to get the water out but it wouldnt come out.
>>>> started hurting pretty bad.  couldnt hear ****.  it doesnt hurt as 
much
>>>> but my hearing is still only about 30% in that ear.  i heard about
>>>> people going deaf on hydrocodone.  does anyone have experience with
>>>> this?  will my hearing return if i quit for a while?

That may be the safest bet, all things considered.

>>>> 
>>>> all i been doing lately is eating norcos and playing internet 
poker and
>>>> xbox live:)

That is the life I must say!

---
Agent 69
alt.drugs.hydromorphone

That's my level best & two lipa and/or €0,02 and anyone who doesn't 
like it can suck my arsehole.

(934.txt)
 




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