On Feb 25, 2:23 am, "The Psychedelic Pope - Saint Isadore Patron Saint
of the Internet" <tadap...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 7:17 pm, Joel <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > "Lizard" <lizardpri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >> Proof is one thing, but it's pretty clear that heavy third- and
> > >> fourth-plateau users (people taking such doses more than once or
twice
> > >> a week) can develop NMDA-antagonist neurotoxicity. However, it may
or
> > >> may not be the largest concern - addiction itself would probably be
> > >> the bigger issue to worry about.
>
> > >It is not clear at all. There isn't even any convincing anecdotal
> > >evidence of it. It simply does not happen, and has NEVER happened to
> > >anybody, as far as can be determined by any scientific method, and
> > >there have been 3 clinical studies (one in the US, one in the
> > >Netherlands and one in France. I am looking for the abstracts and
> > >will post them as soon as I find them) that looked for such evidence
> > >and found none.
>
> > It's not enough to say it hasn't been proven, and it's wrong to say
> > that there isn't any convincing anecdotal evidence. Some people
> > really get addicted to high-plateau DXM trips, and show signs of
> > damage that would be consistent with NAN. It's not the most im****tant
> > issue, I think, but it's certainly a relevant one.
>
> > >Now, if what you are talking about is S*****onin Syndrome (a different
> > >thing altogether) you are on firmer ground. While rare, and almost
> > >always as a side effect of mixing SSRI's with very high doses of DXM,
> > >it has been recorded. S*****onin Syndrome is tem****ary (if it doesn't
> > >kill you, that is) and does not cause degenerative damage.
>
> > I'm not sure why you considered that related to anything I said.
>
> > --
> > Joel Crump
>
> It didn't. He's just one of those stoners that likes to **** with
> your mind.
> Ding the lizard and I'll vomit on my rug - clean it up and crash.
Ding me, baby!
Lizard
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